Mailbag: Non Typical Pension and The Windfall Elimination Provision

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Question from a reader on what actually qualifies as a pension for purposes of applying the Windfall Elimination Provision.

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Hi Devin,

I just listened to your interview on Radical Personal Finance. I was hoping for a more applied discussion, but Joshua couldn’t get off the politics! Ha. Oh, well. You’ll have to do another sometime.

I had a couple topics in mind where I have not found an answer to, and low and behold, you have a couple blog posts on it. Feel free to add these as addendums to the posts if that adds value/clarity to them.

You’re post entitled “What Illinois Teachers Need To Know About Social Security” hit home with me, as I am in the same situation as teachers in Illinois. I work for our University system here in Alaska, and we do not participate in SS taxes, aside from Medicare. Your explanation of WEP and GPO are the best I’ve seen, although the definition of what is and is not considered a “Pension” is one thing I have not found an answer to. My employer currently pays into 2 separate 401(a) accounts, one of which is actually called a “Pension“, but we manage and bear all investment risks in both accounts, so it’s not a guaranteed monthly income like a traditional pension. Am I correct in saying that the SS administration doesn’t care about the type of account, and that I’ll likely be subject to WEP when the time comes (assuming I meet the other conditions for WEP to become applicable to me)?

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Mailbag: Update on the Repeal of the Windfall Elimination Provision

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Kathleen asked me about the current status on the repeal of the Windfall Elimination Provision.

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Where do things stand legislatively now re Windfall Profit Elimination?

As someone who worked as a teacher for only 10 years–the rest of my employment having been primarily with non-profits–I’m suffering from the cuts to what would have been my  social security. To add insult to injury, California (at least) was not required to alert potential new teachers about the WEP effect until 2 months after I was employed, so I wasn’t informed about it until it was  close to my retirement.

I hope you can send me an update.

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Mailbag: A pastor asks, “Should I Opt Out of Social Security If I’m Already Entitled to Benefits?”

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Question from a pastor on opting out of Social Security.

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I am a full time pastor in NC & I read this article you wrote which prompted a question (https://socialsecurityintelligence.com/should-ministers-opt-out-of-social-security/)

I worked in secular employment for about 20 years before becoming a pastor. I have always had some religious and ethical issues with the SS system but more so since I receive my entire salary from peoples tithes and offerings. So I have a question about should I opt out of Social Security…

Since I worked in non-church based jobs for 20 years and paid SS tax all those years would I still get a benefit from that portion of working life if I opt out of the system with regard to my church income?

Just wondering.

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What Illinois Teachers Need To Know About Social Security

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If you’re a teacher who has worked in Illinois, you have some special challenges when figuring out your potential Social Security benefits.  Whether you are a new teacher working on a long-term financial plan, or an experienced educator preparing for an imminent retirement, it is important that you understand how your teaching pension impacts your eligibility for Social Security benefits.

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