If you have a pension from work where you did not pay Social Security taxes, but qualified for SS benefits from other work, your SS benefits formula is NOT THE SAME AS IT IS FOR EVERYONE ELSE! Here’s how it is different…
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Social Security retirement benefits often make up a large portion of an individual’s retirement income. Throughout your lifetime, you can keep an eye on your projected retirement benefits on your annual Social Security statement or by looking at your online mySocialSecurity account (mySSA). It’s a great tool for making educated retirement planning decisions.
But what if your Social Security benefit’s estimate is incorrect by several hundred dollars per month? For some people, it is wrong. Even worse, they probably don’t know it is wrong. What an awful retirement surprise!
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If you’re looking for an online Social Security calculator, you’ll find plenty of options. For example, the Social Security website has 11 different options for calculating your benefit! Additionally, there are plenty of private companies who’ll gladly take your money for their version of a SS calculator. Most of us don’t need all of those options. In most cases, there’s only one Social Security calculator you need to figure out your benefit.
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If you work for an employer who does not participate in Social Security but has their own pension instead, you probably know that your Social Security options can be complicated with tricky rules that only apply to teachers and other public servants. These rules include the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and the Government Pension Offset.
Individuals often look for a way to soften the impact of these rules. Time and again I hear individuals wondering if they can sidestep these rules by simply taking their pension in a lump sum. After all, in just about every reference to these rules, the Social Security Administration (SSA) says that the rules apply to individuals with a pension from work where no Social Security taxes were paid.
So…if there’s no a ‘pension’ being paid, do the rules still apply?
They do, but with a few exceptions. For certain individuals, taking a pension out in a lump sum can be a valid method of sidestepping these rules. If this interests you, read on. The rules for when and how are complicated, and you don’t want to mess this up.
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In several states, most school districts do not participate in Social Security. Instead, they have their own pension plan to which they contribute. But over time, a few school districts in these states have adopted agreements with the Social Security Administration which allows them to participate in both Social Security AND their own pension plan.
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This is the biggest announcement I’ve made since I started this website.
Before I get to that, a little background will help to explain.
When I started this website, I had a simple goal. I wanted to help folks make sense out of Social Security. After assisting individuals with retirement planning for over a decade, I knew that the information available on this topic was unclear and often contradicting. Unfortunately, most folks just had to take the word of the person they’d talked to at their local Social Security office as the final word…even when it didn’t seem right.
What I didn’t completely understand was just how popular this site would become. As I’m writing this article, I’m looking back at multiple days where I’ve had over 1,000 daily visitors to my website. That’s still pretty modest for many sites, but I’m ecstatic that there’s that many people who want to read about Social Security! This site is rapidly growing too. In the last 12 months we’ve experienced a 925% increase in traffic from the search engines such as Google and Bing.
I’ve come to realize, there are a lot of people who are looking for answers to their Social Security questions.
To answer that need, I’m launching a question & answer page to my website. It’s 100% free and super easy to use. If you’d like to check it out, visit https://socialsecurityintelligence.com/questions-answers/.
To post your question, you’ll have to do a quick registration (to keep out the spammers), and agree to the following:
I will continue to offer a consulting service if you’d rather contact me directly. For more information on that, visit the Need Help page.
I can’t wait to see your questions!
Think Social Security is just for the retired? Think again! There’s something here for everyone.
When we think of Social Security, we usually think about a monthly check when we retire. The truth is, the Social Security system offers a lot more than just retirement benefits. There are also benefits if you become disabled, survivor benefits if you die and benefits if you need medical care. All of these benefits offer a valuable safety net for risks that could occur decades before retirement.
Here are some numbers that show the importance of Social Security benefits that you might use long before retirement:
Let’s face it…the risks are real. Social Security helps families who have faced a loss of income due to death or injury.
If you are serious about planning for the future, and protecting against potential risks, you need to understand how these benefits work and when they apply. With this information, you can make the best decisions about how to protect your family.
So how does Social Security help to manage these pre-retirement risks? There are two categories of benefits available:
Both groups of benefits are an important part of your overall financial plan. Let’s examine each individually:
In additional to retirement income, Social Security provides two other important benefits for the worker: income if you become disabled, and medical coverage.
If you become disabled: Social Security provides income to those who are unable to work due to disability. Depending on your work history, you may be eligible for one of two programs: Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) or Supplemental Security Income (SSI).
SSDI pays a portion of your pre-disability income, based upon a complex formula.
Eligibility for SSDI is based on your work history and your medical condition. In general, you must have worked for ten year to be eligible for SSDI, but there are multiple exceptions based upon age.
So how much would this disability payment be? There are a few factors that affect it, but generally speaking you can look at your full retirement age benefit on your Social Security benefit statement for a good idea.
If you become disabled, you may also become eligible for Medicare health insurance after 24 months of disability.
If you die or become disabled, there are benefits that may be available to your spouse and to your children.
There are several ways your spouse may be eligible for social security benefits:
Generally, your spouse will qualify for these benefits if you were married at least 12 months. The requirement for survivor benefits is only 9 months. However, there are multiple exceptions to the 9 month length of marriage requirement.
For more information on the Survivors Benefit, see my article Social Security Survivor Benefits: The Complete Guide to Who Gets What and How to Calculate It.
If you become disabled or die, a child who is your biological child, adopted child, or dependent stepchild is eligible for children’s benefits if the child is:
Assuming that each family member meets the eligibility criteria for benefits, they would be able to receive up to:
Also see the quick reference chart below.
If you die, your spouse will be eligible for 100% of your Full Retirement Age (FRA) benefit if he or she is:
Surviving spouse is eligible to file as early as 60, but benefits will be reduced.
If you become disabled, your spouse will be eligible for 50% of your Full Retirement Age benefit at surviving spouse’s full retirement age or at any age if caring for a child under the age of 16.
Spouse is eligible to file as early as 62, but benefits will be reduced.
If you die, your eligible child may receive 75% of your Full Retirement Age benefit.
If you become disabled, your eligible child may receive 50% of your Full Retirement Age benefit.
Benefits for children continue until the child reaches age 18, unless the child marries. Benefits may continue until the child is 19 as long as he or she is completing a secondary school program. Benefits may also continue for children who were disabled prior to age 22.
Each qualified family member may receive a monthly benefit payment based on your full retirement benefit amount, but there is a limit to the total amount the Social Security Administration will pay to your family. They refer to this limit as the Family Benefit Maximum. This maximum benefit is not a set number but is about 150 to 180 percent of your full retirement benefit. Where your percentage falls depends on your full retirement age benefit. I’ve included a chart below to help you figure this out for yourself.
There are two notable exceptions to maximum calculation.
1)If you have a divorced spouse who is receiving benefits from your work record, it will not count in the family benefit maximum and it will not affect the amount of benefits you or your family may receive.
2) The 150% to 180% range only applies if the payments to children or eligible spouses is made because of your retirement benefit. The family maximum for SSDI is simply 150% of your full retirement age benefit
If a child or surviving spouse is receiving benefits from Social Security, they are subject to the same earnings limitation as everyone else. It should be noted that your child’s earnings affect only their own benefits and not yours or those of any other beneficiaries on your record.
I’ll occasionally hear someone say that they would get out of Social Security if that was allowed.Their thought is that they’ll never receive the amount of benefits to equal to the amount of taxes they’ve paid in. That rationale makes sense if you are only considering the benefit you may get in retirement. But the argument falls completely apart when you consider all the other benefits that are provided from Social Security.
If you really wanted to opt out of Social Security, you’d need to:
The average couple would need to pay for life insurance, disability insurance and save just over $1,000,000 to replace the income from Social Security.
If you still have questions about Social Security and retirement income, here are a few resources that I think are great.
Brandon Renfro’s article on the 4% rule of retirement
Mike Piper’s Social Security Made Simple
Emily Guy Birken’s Making Social Security Work For You
“We need to get immediate payment or we’ll garnish your Social Security benefit!”
The voicemail left for my client couldn’t have been more clear. After his wife died, he was left with thousands of dollars in medical bills. He’d tried to sort it all out, but trying to process his wife’s death and a mountain of medical bills at the same time was overwhelming. He planned to get to it, but for now, he just needed a minute to grieve.
The bill collectors didn’t wait, and it didn’t take long for the nasty calls to come rolling in. His last straw was the voicemail with the threat of taking away his Social Security benefit. I still remember the frustration, fear and anger in his voice when he asked me, “Can Social Security be garnished by debt collectors?”
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One of the biggest hurdles to a successful retirement is financial organization. It’s easy for account statements, legal forms and other important documents to pile up in some hidden away desk or drawer. Before long, things are messy. Not just physically messy, but mentally messy too.
Before you can accurately plan for an awesome retirement, you need to clean this mess up. Having a clear system will help make all of your life easier. It might take a little effort, but it will save you so much time and energy in the future.
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Social Security Spousal Benefits really aren’t that hard to calculate. However, they are just a little deeper than some of the stuff I see floating around on the internet.
The cases that are most often misunderstood are those where a lower earning spouse will collect benefits from his/her work record and an additional amount for a spousal benefit.
Here’s a video where I discuss the steps to calculating this “dual entitlement” of both types of benefits.